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Post by Janet on Apr 27, 2011 0:13:58 GMT
Hi Chris, Thank you once again for your reply and it's interesting information even though it's not a definite answer. Regards, Janet
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Post by jimmy on Jun 18, 2011 18:05:35 GMT
am researching my family history, litherland, ive traced back from salford lanc's to appleby magna or burton upon trent, ive seen web history of appleby, parish register etc, earliest pos record i have is richard litherland born around 1831 as above. i need a link to his parents, if anyone can help. an aside to this by chance ive found an article in the lancashire life magazine jan 1971 litherland family 1220 onward! many thanks. jimmy.
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Post by Chris on Jun 18, 2011 19:11:52 GMT
Jimmy -
The Appleby Parish Register record a Richard Litherland being baptised on October 11th 1830. Son of Richard and Mary Litherland. Richard senior's occupation is listed as "drainer".
Is that the Richard you were looking for ??
Chris
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Post by jimmy on Jun 20, 2011 17:16:01 GMT
thanks chris, i had seen that richard but wasnt 100% sure if it was him, ithink it must be will continue to trace his parents now. by the way the 1831 richard was living in salford in 1881 census. thanks again.
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Post by Chris on Jun 20, 2011 21:08:59 GMT
It looks like he moved up to sunny Salford before the 1851 census. He appears in that census apparently living with relatives.
There is no trace of Richard (senior or junior) in the 1841 Appleby census, so the move to the dark side (i.e. Lancashire) could even have been before 1841.
Good hunting.
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Post by jimmy on Jun 30, 2011 14:05:03 GMT
once again thanks chris, the richard in question,according to the 1851 census was living with his uncle amos elton in salford, amos elton's profession was a publican. they both were born in appleby, i noted the name elton in the appleby records! it looks like he followed his uncle to the manchester area? although according to that census ,next door lived another family of litherlands, complicated business this geneology lark. i was asked by the lancashire life magazine if i would write a small piece for publication,about the litherland family name any help from anyone would be appreciated. many thanks from sunny lancs. jimmy.
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Post by Chris on Jul 2, 2011 9:02:25 GMT
Jimmy -
Good luck with your article.
The Appleby Parish Registers and Census Returns obviously show quite a lot of Litherlands. They first appear in the early 1600's, but the family seems to have totally left the village by the middle of the 1800's.
If you subscribe to ancestry.co.uk there are some quite detailed family trees, from Richard (1830) going back several generations, almost entirely based in Appleby or other local villages. But as always with ancestry.co.uk it is best if you can verify the entries.
Chris
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Post by jimmy on Jul 5, 2011 15:55:27 GMT
many thanks chris,will battle on, jimmy.
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Post by Al on Sept 23, 2011 22:46:55 GMT
Jimmy I also believe that Richard 1830 was the son of Richard & Mary (Spooner) and the elder Richard was the son of Thomas & Sarah (Mawbey).I think the elder Richard was in Alvecote at the 1841 census. Amos Elton is actually Ann nee Litherland-widow of Joseph Elton & daughter of the above Thomas. Joseph seems to have had a substantial bricklaying business and I guess that a lot of the Litherlands went to Salford to work for him.His firm did the brickwork for the original Manchester Racecourse 1846/7.He died 1849. Got a lot of info which I am happy to share with you if you are willing to to let me have your email address. Al
(Note from Admin - Al your next two spelling correcting posts have been deleted as the "overactive" slang checker has now been turned down. The name Spooner is now correctly displayed above.)
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2013 1:13:25 GMT
Record for Richard Litherland 1841 England Census about Richd Litherland Name: Richd Litherland Age: 10 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1831 Gender: Male Civil parish: Salford Hundred: Salford County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Registration district: Salford Sub-registration district: Regent Road Piece: 585 Book: 21 Folio: 34 Page Number: 13-14 Household Members: Name Age Thos Leigh 25 Martha Leigh 20 (Martha Litherland, sister to Thomas, John, and Richard) Thos Litherland 21 John Litherland 15 Richd Litherland 10
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2013 1:28:37 GMT
I found this thread while searching for information about “Ann nee Litherland-widow of Joseph Elton & daughter of the above Thomas.” Ann's granddaughter Catharine (daughter of Catherine Elton and Thomas Litherland - Yes, Catharine and Thomas were first cousins before they were man and wife.) married Edwin Josiah Knight in Heywood, St Luke, Lancashire on 1 Aug 1881 and immigrated to the US (Alabama) in January 1891.
Is Al still out there with information to share about the bricklaying business?
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Post by Admin on Jun 25, 2013 10:09:58 GMT
Hi - hthayesatlanta,
Thanks for your contribution, unfortunately Al made all his posts as a "guest", which means we have no recorded email address for him which we could use to inform him of your information.
Fingers crossed that he checks back occasionally for updates.
p.s. Also (and apologies if you already know this) in the 1841 census the enumerators were supposed to round down the ages of anyone over 15 to the nearest 5 which makes the recorded age of Thos. at 21 a little strange. But not every enumerator was bothered about being exact.
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Post by Al on Oct 11, 2013 20:01:47 GMT
I found this thread while searching for information about “Ann nee Litherland-widow of Joseph Elton & daughter of the above Thomas.” Ann's granddaughter Catharine (daughter of Catherine Elton and Thomas Litherland - Yes, Catharine and Thomas were first cousins before they were man and wife.) married Edwin Josiah Knight in Heywood, St Luke, Lancashire on 1 Aug 1881 and immigrated to the US (Alabama) in January 1891. Is Al still out there with information to share about the bricklaying business?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2013 20:36:44 GMT
Hi hthayesatlanta I am still around and making my annual visit. I have a brief extract from a newspaper saying that Joseph Elton was responsible for the brickwork at Manchester Racecourse and that he was a guest at the grand opening.This apart I don't know much about the business. There is an Elton Street in Salford which he built and ,of course,named.His home and Eltons Yard are still standing but 2 big dogs discouraged me from entering. In 1894 part of the yard was destroyed by fire and 3 children died in the fire.At that time the property was occupied by William Henry Litherland,Joseph Elton's grandnephew. I am happy to let you have my email addfress if you think we can be of mutual assistance Al
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Post by Valerie on Dec 11, 2013 16:36:37 GMT
This is post is for Al. Earlier in the thread you mentioned Richard Litherland married to Mary Spooner. I believe that line is my family. Do you have further information about them? Thanks, Valerie
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